Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Indonesian term or phrase:
sedapat-dapat bersifat keharusan
English translation:
to be provided whenever possible
Added to glossary by
ErichEko ⟹⭐
Nov 29, 2011 09:22
12 yrs ago
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Indonesian term
Australia
Native in: English
Works in: Indonesian to English, English to Indonesian, Thai to English, and 1 more.
sedapat-dapat bersifat keharusan
Indonesian to English
Law/Patents
Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs
Kalimat lengkap adalah: "Pas foto ini sedapat-dapat bersifat keharusan" dan muncul di buku nikah di bawah foto kedua mempelai. It seems to mean "as far as possible it is obligatory", which sounds strange in English and seems a bit of a contradiction. I'm wondering if there are special circumstances in which the photo is not obiligaory. If I understood better when it is not mandatory, I might know better who to express it in English.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | to be provided whenever appropriate |
ErichEko ⟹⭐
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| 3 | obligatory at best |
Ahmad Mustaf (X)
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Change log
Dec 22, 2011 03:37: ErichEko ⟹⭐ Created KOG entry
Jan 27, 2013 22:06: ErichEko ⟹⭐ changed "Field" from "Other" to "Law/Patents"
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ErichEko ⟹⭐
Indonesia
Indonesia
Native in Indonesian
Works in field
Indonesia
Legal, Marketing, Biz, Software, Games
Native in: Indonesian (Variant: Standard-Indonesia) 
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English
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to be provided whenever appropriate
A picture should be provided whenever appropriate.
It is up to the translator whether to retain the nuance of such a "non-mandatory" obligation, typical of Indonesian, or decide to be bolder and more direct.
sedapat-dapat bersifat keharusan means if you are a normal person, you have to provide your picture. However, we have to acknowledge that some people may not be too willing, e.g. girl that have big scar across face ("codet"), or man who loses his nose, etc.
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Comment: "Thanks Erich for explaining the background. Since I had to quickly submit the translation I wrote "obligatory whenever possible", but adapting your answer it would be more natural in English to say "must be provided whenever possible". Thanks for helping me think it through."
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obligatory at best
I think the appropriate phrase is 'obligatory at best.' Sure, this sounds as if that the photograph is actually required.
An alternative is perhaps 'required but not obligatory.'
Just my two cents :)
An alternative is perhaps 'required but not obligatory.'
Just my two cents :)
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