Jul 14, 2006 21:36
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français term

virtuelles

français vers anglais Médecine Médecine (général) medical report
Les cavités pleurales sont virtuelles..
dans ce contexte

Discussion

Drmanu49 Jul 14, 2006:
so back to the initial "the pleural cavity is a virtual space" which as Michael said seems lesion free .
Sophie Raimondo (asker) Jul 14, 2006:
No, no baby here... I understand the meaning, but I'm going to use "virtual" with a note to the editor... I think it's the safest, given that I was given "virtual time" to do this (meaning no time at all...)
Drmanu49 Jul 14, 2006:
Oops I thought we were in utero!
Drmanu49 Jul 14, 2006:
As Michael mentioned, the future space they will normally take is free.
Sophie Raimondo (asker) Jul 14, 2006:
How do I fit your translation into my sentence? The pleural cavities are only potential spaces?
Sophie Raimondo (asker) Jul 14, 2006:
Michael, thank you. Patient is a man, he's 60 years old.
Sophie Raimondo (asker) Jul 14, 2006:
ON second thoughts, how can they be "not developped" or primitive? DOes that make any sense?
Sophie Raimondo (asker) Jul 14, 2006:
It sounds better...
Drmanu49 Jul 14, 2006:
maybe not developed would fit better, or still primitive...

Proposed translations

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30 minutes
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only potential spaces

The meaning is that there is no pleural effusion or mass lesion changing the potential space of the pleural cavity into a real three-dimensional space. Assertion that the pleural cavity has no lesion that changes it from a potential space.

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Note added at 34 mins (2006-07-14 22:10:49 GMT)
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Context- including history and diagnosis--is necessary to properly translate such a phrase in such a report.
Patient age,history,diagnosis ?
Peer comment(s):

agree sarahl (X)
1 heure
thanks sarahl
agree Michael Barnett
6 heures
thank you Michael
agree Dr Sue Levy (X) : I'm sure I've answered this question before - we don't use the notion of virtual space in English - it just means there is no abnormality in the pleural cavity//You did indeed Michael - my comment was more for the benefit of the Asker :-)
19 heures
thank you Sue--exactly what I tried to express in my initial note. //merci Sue
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5 minutes

The pleural cavities are virtual

The pathogenesis of the pleural and ascitic fluids and the importance of CA-125 ... virtual cavity.11 The pleural effusion in the cases of ovarian tumors, ...
www.obgyn.net/gynonc/gynonc.asp?page=/english/pubs/articles... - 46k

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Note added at 10 mins (2006-07-14 21:46:23 GMT)
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the primitive pleural cavities, and the midgut loop commences its return to the peritoneal ... detected, as the foetus normally does not defecate in utero. ...
erbak.com/famona/surgery/mieny/m15.pdf - Résultat complémentaire

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Note added at 45 mins (2006-07-14 22:21:44 GMT)
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Les cavités pleurales sont virtuelles, mais jouent un rôle prépondérant dans la respiration. Elles assurent la mobilité des poumons contre les parois du thorax et transmettent à ceux-ci la dépression engendrée par la contraction du diaphragme. Cette dépression crée l'appel d'air permettant l'inspiration. Il est donc indispensable que ces cavités restent virtuelles. En effet, si ces cavités se remplissent d'air, la plèvre thoracique n'attirera plus la plèvre viscérale lors de la contraction du diaphragme. La dépression créée entraînera le remplissage des cavités pleurales plutôt que la dilatation des poumons.

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Note added at 46 mins (2006-07-14 22:23:16 GMT)
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pleural cavity virtual space surrounding lungs, one of the 3 intraembryonic ceoloms (pericardial, pleural, peroitoneal). Embryonic origin: walls derived ...
embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/Notes/Index/P.htm - 27k - 13 juil 2006 -

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Note added at 48 mins (2006-07-14 22:24:38 GMT)
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In normal circumstances, the pleural cavity is a virtual space containing only a very small amount of fluid [1]. An exudative pleural effusion is an ...
content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowFulltext&ProduktNr=224278&Ausgabe=230705&am...
Peer comment(s):

agree Shog Imas
8 jours
Thank you Shog
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