Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
mal systématisée
English translation:
poorly defined lumbar radicular pain
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Drmanu49
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mal systématisée
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I know this has been asked before but I feel like it needs a different translation in this context. This is the indication for a lumbar spine MRI:
"Bilan de lomboradiculalgie gauche mal systématisée (plutôt L4)."
I can find hits for "poorly systematized" in this context but they're all written by French authors so I'm doubtful that this is the correct translation.
"Bilan de lomboradiculalgie gauche mal systématisée (plutôt L4)."
I can find hits for "poorly systematized" in this context but they're all written by French authors so I'm doubtful that this is the correct translation.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | poorly defined lumbar radicular pain |
Drmanu49
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| 4 +2 | non-specific |
liz askew
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| 4 | Of poorly determined location |
Martin Buchet
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| 4 | Non specific |
Armelle Sandra
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| 2 | poorly systematized |
Andrzej Ziomek
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poorly defined lumbar radicular pain
Lumbar Radiculopathy | Spine-health
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Radicular pain radiates into the lower extremity (thigh, calf, and occasionally the foot) directly along the course of a specific spinal nerve root. The most ...
Lumbar radicular pain - RACGP
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de J Govind · Cité 92 fois — Lumbar radicular pain is a form of neuralgia due to an irritation of the sensory root or the dorsal root ganglion (DRG) of a spinal nerve. In contrast, sciatic.
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In general, poorly defined pain of uncertain aetiology with no abnormal findings on imaging investigations would be less likely to respond to opioid therapy ...
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lumbar radicular pain sur www.spine-health.com
Radicular pain radiates into the lower extremity (thigh, calf, and occasionally the foot) directly along the course of a specific spinal nerve root. The most ...
Lumbar radicular pain - RACGP
https://www.racgp.org.au › attachment
de J Govind · Cité 92 fois — Lumbar radicular pain is a form of neuralgia due to an irritation of the sensory root or the dorsal root ganglion (DRG) of a spinal nerve. In contrast, sciatic.
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Type of pain and timing of therapy - Faculty of Pain Medicine
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In general, poorly defined pain of uncertain aetiology with no abnormal findings on imaging investigations would be less likely to respond to opioid therapy ...
Note from asker:
| Thank you, but all of the references you have posted are for "lumbar radicular pain" which isn't the term I was asking about. Do you have anything to support why you believe it is "poorly defined" in this context? |
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Comment: "Thank you, this fit my context the best"
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non-specific
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Note from asker:
| Thanks Liz but I looked at these before posted and they are not being used in the context that I am asking about. In my context, the term is describing "lumbar radicular pain" |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Anne Schulz
: Michael Barnett surely knows what he is talking about, and he perfectly explains the matter in the third reference (@Emily)
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| agree |
Ilian DAVIAUD
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Andrzej Ziomek
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poorly systematized
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Example sentence:
A psychotic disorder characterized by transient, poorly systematized delusions.
Note from asker:
| What does this have to do with lumbar radicular pain? Please read my question. |
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Martin Buchet
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Of poorly determined location
Mal systématisé : the exact origin of the pain is not precisely known.
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Armelle Sandra
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Ponctualité-efficacité-rigueur
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Non specific
To facilitate understanding, we will start with the definition of the key words systematisation, systemic, which all derive from the word system.
N.B.: keep in mind here the definition of a system as a whole.
In medicine, systematisation is an anatomical organisation into segments constituting a coherent whole according to a determined order,
Med. systemic disease (Garnier-Del. 1972). α) Pathol. Systemic disease. Affecting electively the different elements belonging to the same tissue or system.
Multisystematic atrophy is a progressive and incurable neurodegenerative disease (which means that the disease spreads throughout the area concerned, which can be considered here as a system).
Let us return to the disease that interests us, namely low back pain or lumbaradiculalgia.
The spine is a complex structure in which all the abnormalities present may or may not be a source of pain and may be associated with each other.
The normality of the examinations does not mean in the same way that the people suffering from them have "nothing". Indeed, many of these mechanical problems do not show up on the available tests. This is why the assessment of lumbaradiculalgia can be fairly nonspecific.
So, I will rather go for fairly nonspecific as a response.
N.B.: keep in mind here the definition of a system as a whole.
In medicine, systematisation is an anatomical organisation into segments constituting a coherent whole according to a determined order,
Med. systemic disease (Garnier-Del. 1972). α) Pathol. Systemic disease. Affecting electively the different elements belonging to the same tissue or system.
Multisystematic atrophy is a progressive and incurable neurodegenerative disease (which means that the disease spreads throughout the area concerned, which can be considered here as a system).
Let us return to the disease that interests us, namely low back pain or lumbaradiculalgia.
The spine is a complex structure in which all the abnormalities present may or may not be a source of pain and may be associated with each other.
The normality of the examinations does not mean in the same way that the people suffering from them have "nothing". Indeed, many of these mechanical problems do not show up on the available tests. This is why the assessment of lumbaradiculalgia can be fairly nonspecific.
So, I will rather go for fairly nonspecific as a response.
Example sentence:
The assessment of lumbaradiculalgia can be nonspecific.
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