Glossary entry

Deutsch term or phrase:

urjüdisch

Englisch translation:

quintessentially Jewish

Added to glossary by Daniel Gray
Apr 22, 2013 11:20
11 yrs ago
Deutsch term

urjüdisch

Deutsch > Englisch Geistes- und Sozialwissenschaften Linguistik
In a text about discrimination attached to names.

From the paragraph:

"So kann man am oben bereits genannten Beispiel des jüdischen Vornamens Isidor zeigen, dass er sich nicht durch seine Bedeutung im namen-etymologischen Sinne (,Geschenk der Isis‘) zur Stigmatisierung eines Juden oder aller Juden durch Antisemiten eignete. Auch seine Herkunft aus dem Griechischen, wenn man sie zur Namenbedeutung im weiteren Sinne hinzurechnet, kann die diskriminatorische Potenz dieses Namens nicht erklären; hebräischen, also ****urjüdischen*** Ursprungs ist er ja nicht. Erst wenn man das Faktum heranzieht, dass Isidor ein bei den mitteleuropäischen Juden oft vorkommender Vorname war und dieser Umstand zum assoziativen Bestandteil der pragmatischen Bedeutung dieses Namens wurde, wird klar, wie und warum Antisemiten ihr diffamierendes "Spiel" mit dem Namen lsidor treiben konnten."

I have seen English books simply use "urjüdisch" and in one case "urjüdisch (proto-Jewish)".

Is there an accepted term in English for this?
References
fwiw

Proposed translations

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quintessentially Jewish

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Example from link below:

"Take, for example, the quintessentially Jewish name Esther, which is Persian in origin and shares its root with the fertility goddess, Ishtar."
Peer comment(s):

agree Wendy Streitparth : also good
9 Min.
Thanks, Wendy!
agree Eleanore Strauss : right on; inherently has a slightly different nuance...ur anything is quintessential...
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inherently Jewish

maybe?
Peer comment(s):

agree Lancashireman
39 Min.
neutral writeaway : a bit pejorative imo.
44 Min.
agree Wendy Streitparth : disagree with writeaway
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elementally Jewish

And yet, all this vitriolic rancor notwithstanding, Kraus's writings have also been read as elementally Jewish. In his essay "Sittlichkeit und ...
http://www.academicroom.com/article/germans-and-jews-beyond-...

Still, he insisted, inevitably some tiny clue—something in the urjüdisch (elementally Jewish) laugh or gesticulation—gives the Jew away “and the mask falls.
Jews and the Making of Modern German Theatre - Page 27 - Google Books Result
books.google.com.mx/books?isbn=1587298686

Surprisingly, we resist such grim conclusions, and we resist them by invoking God; in the face of the challenge to our hopes, something elementally Jewish ...
Exploring Jewish ethics: papers on covenant responsibility - Page 110 - Google Books Result
books.google.com.mx/books?isbn=0814321992
Eugene B Borowitz - 1990 - Religion
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Reference comments

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Reference:

fwiw

Salvation Through Spinoza: A Study of Jewish Culture in Weimar Germany - Page 27
books.google.com/books?isbn=900420721X
David Wertheim - 2011 - Religion
As it will become apparent, these values manifested in the praise of Spinoza as having been deeply religious or even “urjüdisch” (primordial Jewish), for his ...
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agree Edith Kelly
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