Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
la préférence au salé
English translation:
salt preference
Added to glossary by
Kelly Harrison
Jul 13, 2012 21:39
11 yrs ago
French term
la préférence au salé
French to English
Medical
Medical (general)
Oral health / endocrinology
Compte tenu de l’effet des œstrogènes sur ***la préférence au salé*** chez l’adulte, nous avons conduit une étude expérimentale chez le rat pour définir l’impact du BPA présent dans l’eau de boisson sur l’homéostasie buccale sur la base d’une approche intégrative incluant les effets sur les préférences au salé, l’épithélium buccal et les glandes salivaires, et dans le respect des doses d’expositions alimentaires ou sanitaires (soins dentaires)
I have translated this as "preference for salty tastes"; however I am wondering if there is a "proper" term...
Thank you very much in advance.
I have translated this as "preference for salty tastes"; however I am wondering if there is a "proper" term...
Thank you very much in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +4 | preference for salt |
cc in nyc
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| 4 +2 | salty taste preference |
Michele Fauble
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| 4 | preference for salty foods |
Gurudutt Kamath
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| 4 | dieatary preference for salt |
liz askew
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| 4 | preference for savoury (Brit)/savory (US) foods |
Isabelle F. BRUCHER (X)
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| 5 -2 | Salty taste |
Salih YILDIRIM
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Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
préférence au salé
Selected
preference for salt
IMO...
(...with all due respect to the savory side of things)
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Or "salt preference."
Here are some references:
The ontogeny of salt preference in rats.
Many mammals eat salt irrespective of need. This behavior, called salt preference or appetite, is studied primarily in adults. Little is known about its ontogeny. In these experiments, 3-18-day-old rat pups were offered saline, quinine, or ammonium chloride solutions by infusion through an anterior oral catheter, and intake was measured. At 6-18 days, pups showed the inverted U-shaped preference-aversion curve for NaCl that is characteristic of adult rats. Thus, rats express a preference for salt at a very early age.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3709974
Gustatory deafferentation and desalivation: effects on NaCl preference of Fischer 344 rats.
The chorda tympani nerve (CT) appears to be particularly responsive to NaCl stimulation of the tongue. However, in most strains of rat, bilateral transection of the CT (CTX) results in little alteration of salt preference. The Fischer 344 (F344) strain of rat is unusual in its lack of preference for any concentration of salt. We recently reported a dramatic change from aversion to preference for salt in F344 rats after CTX.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8141410
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@ Kelly: What discrepancy do you perceive?
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My choice: Given the effect of estrogen on salt preference in adults...
;-)
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The animated Einstein is on the link that Nikki posted on her peer comment; here it is again:
http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staffinfo/jacob/teaching/sensory/t...
I think it's funny!
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As for Google hits (using Firefox):
when coupled with "site:pubmed.gov" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: 8 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 434 results
when coupled with "site:gov" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: 10 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 1,780 results
when coupled with "site:edu" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: 5 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 1,250 results
when coupled with "site:uk" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: About 152 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 566 results
But the key is to find the right expression for the context, which is scientific here.
(...with all due respect to the savory side of things)
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Or "salt preference."
Here are some references:
The ontogeny of salt preference in rats.
Many mammals eat salt irrespective of need. This behavior, called salt preference or appetite, is studied primarily in adults. Little is known about its ontogeny. In these experiments, 3-18-day-old rat pups were offered saline, quinine, or ammonium chloride solutions by infusion through an anterior oral catheter, and intake was measured. At 6-18 days, pups showed the inverted U-shaped preference-aversion curve for NaCl that is characteristic of adult rats. Thus, rats express a preference for salt at a very early age.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3709974
Gustatory deafferentation and desalivation: effects on NaCl preference of Fischer 344 rats.
The chorda tympani nerve (CT) appears to be particularly responsive to NaCl stimulation of the tongue. However, in most strains of rat, bilateral transection of the CT (CTX) results in little alteration of salt preference. The Fischer 344 (F344) strain of rat is unusual in its lack of preference for any concentration of salt. We recently reported a dramatic change from aversion to preference for salt in F344 rats after CTX.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8141410
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@ Kelly: What discrepancy do you perceive?
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My choice: Given the effect of estrogen on salt preference in adults...
;-)
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The animated Einstein is on the link that Nikki posted on her peer comment; here it is again:
http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staffinfo/jacob/teaching/sensory/t...
I think it's funny!
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As for Google hits (using Firefox):
when coupled with "site:pubmed.gov" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: 8 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 434 results
when coupled with "site:gov" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: 10 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 1,780 results
when coupled with "site:edu" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: 5 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 1,250 results
when coupled with "site:uk" [without quotes]:
"salty taste preference" [with quotes]: About 152 results
"salt preference" [with quotes]: About 566 results
But the key is to find the right expression for the context, which is scientific here.
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much, Ms cc. Some slight discrepancy in the expression of this concept though, and I do like to get it just right... let's see what the audience think! |
| Just which would be the "correct" syntax to use really... |
| Can you explain your einstein joke to me? I need a laugh :oP |
| Thanks again cc, especially for these invaluable tips on using google's research facilities, which should prove to be a tremendous time-saver for me in future! :oD |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Absolutely. http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staffinfo/jacob/teaching/sensory/t... Olfaction is one of my favourite subjects, gustation, the other chemical sense is never far behind, although not a speciality for me ;-). Or PPP as Onestone would say!
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Thank you. (Especially for the Einstein cartoon... I did laugh... and laugh!)
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| agree |
liz askew
10 hrs
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Thank you.
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| agree |
Bertrand Leduc
12 hrs
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Thank you.
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| agree |
Gavin Jack
12 hrs
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Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you! "
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Gurudutt Kamath
India
India
Native in English
Specializes in field
India
Translator with a technical bent.
Native in: English (Variants: UK, US, British, Indian, Canadian) 
, Hindi
Works in: French to English, Marathi to English, Hindi to English
preference for salty foods
In the context, it would be better to say preference for salty foods. The other definitions though correct, make it sound too technical.
Note from asker:
| Quite, this is a manuscript that is to be considered for publication in a scientific journal! |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
cc in nyc
: Medical and science translations are technical
9 mins
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| neutral |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: The original does not say anything about a preference for salty foods but describes a preference for salt, the salt taste or salty taste. It has to be technical and say no more, no less.
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Salih YILDIRIM
United States
United States
Works in field
United States
Meticulous, scrupulous, curious work!
Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul )
Works in: Turkish to English, English to Turkish, French to Turkish, and 1 more.
Salty taste
Imho
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Kim Metzger
: What about "la préférence"?
21 mins
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| disagree |
liz askew
: I am with Kim.
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53 mins
Michele Fauble
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
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salty taste preference
Measures related to salty taste preference were inversely related to birth weight over the first 4 years of life.
European Journal of Clinical Nutrition - Abstract of article: Salty taste ...
www.nature.com › Journal home › Archive › Original Articles
by LJ Stein - 2005
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British Food Journal
Fruit and snack consumption related to sweet, sour and salty taste preferences.
www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm/journals.htm?...
Flavor Perception in Human Infants: Development and Functional Significance
Similarly, we have shown [19] that several behavioral measures related to salty taste preference are inversely related to birth weight ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › Journal List › Digestion
Nutritional and Physiological Mechanisms Involved in specific Taste Preferences of Rats
To clarify the mechanisms involved in the sour-taste preference seen in the physically fatigued rats, the increase of biotin preference in the diabetic rats, and the decrease of salty taste preference in rats orally treated with capsaicin for 10 seconds a day, we conducted detailed investigations.
www.ffcr.or.jp/zaidan/FFCRHOME.nsf/.../$FILE/213(6)2.pdf
The salty taste preference in mGluR4 knockout mice was unaltered compared with wild-type controls ...
jn.nutrition.org/content/130/4/1039S.full
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Google search
Did you search for the exact term? (using quotes)
"salt preference"
About 11,700 results (0.09 seconds)
"salty taste preference"
About 58,100 results (0.10 seconds)
European Journal of Clinical Nutrition - Abstract of article: Salty taste ...
www.nature.com › Journal home › Archive › Original Articles
by LJ Stein - 2005
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British Food Journal
Fruit and snack consumption related to sweet, sour and salty taste preferences.
www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm/journals.htm?...
Flavor Perception in Human Infants: Development and Functional Significance
Similarly, we have shown [19] that several behavioral measures related to salty taste preference are inversely related to birth weight ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › Journal List › Digestion
Nutritional and Physiological Mechanisms Involved in specific Taste Preferences of Rats
To clarify the mechanisms involved in the sour-taste preference seen in the physically fatigued rats, the increase of biotin preference in the diabetic rats, and the decrease of salty taste preference in rats orally treated with capsaicin for 10 seconds a day, we conducted detailed investigations.
www.ffcr.or.jp/zaidan/FFCRHOME.nsf/.../$FILE/213(6)2.pdf
The salty taste preference in mGluR4 knockout mice was unaltered compared with wild-type controls ...
jn.nutrition.org/content/130/4/1039S.full
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Google search
Did you search for the exact term? (using quotes)
"salt preference"
About 11,700 results (0.09 seconds)
"salty taste preference"
About 58,100 results (0.10 seconds)
Note from asker:
| Thank you so much, Michele! |
| Thanks again for those extra references, Michele. However, a google search provides 36 million more references for salt preference, so I am tempted to go with this option... |
| AHA. I got 24,000 hits in 0.19 seconds for "salty taste", and yes I had forgotten about the inverted commas, thank you ever so much! |
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dieatary preference for salt
High dietary salt during pregnancy in ewes alters the responses of ...
digital.library.adelaide.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/2440/.../02whole.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
by S Digby - 2007 - Related articles
pregnancy was associated with a change in the dietary preference for salt and/or ..... Several factors including high oestrogen and plasma desoxycorticosterone ...
digital.library.adelaide.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/2440/.../02whole.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
by S Digby - 2007 - Related articles
pregnancy was associated with a change in the dietary preference for salt and/or ..... Several factors including high oestrogen and plasma desoxycorticosterone ...
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Not wrong but not quite right either as there is no mention of "préférence alimentaire". It adds nothing to the understanding and in context it is not actually said.
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How else are you going to absorb salt?
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preference for savoury (Brit)/savory (US) foods
First of all, in French it should be "préférence pour le salé", otherwise it means "préférer quelque chose au salé", like in:
■ je préfère ce manteau à l'autre : I prefer this coat to the other one | I like this coat better than the other one.
(Grand Robert & Collins, www.lerobert.com).
Assuming the meaning is "la préférence pour le salé", "le salé" is officially translated as this (same dictionary as above):
"2 nom masculin « nourriture »
■ le salé
[en général] salty foods
***[par opposition à sucré] savoury (Brit) ou savory (US) foods"***
and:
"savoury • savory US ['seɪvərɪ] → synonyms
1 adjective
a Brit “not sweet”; [food, dish] ▶ salé (par opposition à sucré)
■ a savoury pie : une tourte"
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préférence [pʀefeʀɑ̃s] nom féminin → guide d'expression (34.5) → synonymes
▶ preference
■ donner la préférence à : to give preference to
■ ***avoir une préférence marquée pour… : to have a marked preference for…***
■ avoir la préférence sur : to have preference over
■ je n'ai pas de préférence : I have no preference | I don't mind
■ par ordre de préférence : in order of preference
■ la préférence communautaire /Europe/ : Community preference
■ la préférence nationale /Politique/ : discrimination in favour of a country's own nationals
◊ de préférence
« plutôt » preferably
■ de préférence à : in preference to | rather than
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=> preference for savoury (Brit)/savory (US) foods
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Examples:
1) preference for savOUry foods :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24368217/NBE-Journal-VolIV-Jan-to-... (link copied below) :
Page 30, central column:
"Irritability, listlesseness, anorexia or preference for savoury foods."
http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/forums/index.php?showtopic=9... :
"I had very few symptoms and a fairly easy pregnancy.
This time around I am again not sure and although early days again very few symptoms - other than maybe a preference for savoury foods over sweet."
http://hautestuff.blogspot.be/2012/04/28-weeks-down-12-to-go... :
"Despite my preference for savoury foods these days,
I can never resist an ice-cream-accompanied sweet treat."
http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/general-coffeehouse-chat-... :
"The babies who were given fingers foods also showed more preference for savoury foods and carbohydrates, whereas spoon-fed babies tended to prefer sweet foods."
And many other examples on the Web.
2) preference for savOry foods :
http://medind.nic.in/icb/t05/i9/icbt05i9p771.pdf (link copied below):
"TABLE 2. Features Suggestive of Renal Tubular Disorders
Clinical
• Growth retardation, failure to thrive
• Polyuria, polydipsia; preference for savory foods"
"Evaluation: The first step in the evaluation of a child with
hypokalemia and metabolic acidosis is to differentiate
gastrointestinal bicarbonate loss from RTA. The presence
of polyuria, *preference for savory foods*, failure to thrive
and rickets, are suggestive of RTA."
http://www.drgourmet.com/bites/2012/052312.shtml :
"The records on the participants' handheld devices revealed that while those on the *savory diet* felt more satisfied with their meals than those on the *sweet diet*, they also showed *a stronger preference for sweet foods*. Those on the sweet diet showed more of **a preference for savory foods**, but this preference was not nearly as strong."
And many other examples on the Web.
■ je préfère ce manteau à l'autre : I prefer this coat to the other one | I like this coat better than the other one.
(Grand Robert & Collins, www.lerobert.com).
Assuming the meaning is "la préférence pour le salé", "le salé" is officially translated as this (same dictionary as above):
"2 nom masculin « nourriture »
■ le salé
[en général] salty foods
***[par opposition à sucré] savoury (Brit) ou savory (US) foods"***
and:
"savoury • savory US ['seɪvərɪ] → synonyms
1 adjective
a Brit “not sweet”; [food, dish] ▶ salé (par opposition à sucré)
■ a savoury pie : une tourte"
-----
préférence [pʀefeʀɑ̃s] nom féminin → guide d'expression (34.5) → synonymes
▶ preference
■ donner la préférence à : to give preference to
■ ***avoir une préférence marquée pour… : to have a marked preference for…***
■ avoir la préférence sur : to have preference over
■ je n'ai pas de préférence : I have no preference | I don't mind
■ par ordre de préférence : in order of preference
■ la préférence communautaire /Europe/ : Community preference
■ la préférence nationale /Politique/ : discrimination in favour of a country's own nationals
◊ de préférence
« plutôt » preferably
■ de préférence à : in preference to | rather than
-----
=> preference for savoury (Brit)/savory (US) foods
-----
Examples:
1) preference for savOUry foods :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24368217/NBE-Journal-VolIV-Jan-to-... (link copied below) :
Page 30, central column:
"Irritability, listlesseness, anorexia or preference for savoury foods."
http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/forums/index.php?showtopic=9... :
"I had very few symptoms and a fairly easy pregnancy.
This time around I am again not sure and although early days again very few symptoms - other than maybe a preference for savoury foods over sweet."
http://hautestuff.blogspot.be/2012/04/28-weeks-down-12-to-go... :
"Despite my preference for savoury foods these days,
I can never resist an ice-cream-accompanied sweet treat."
http://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/general-coffeehouse-chat-... :
"The babies who were given fingers foods also showed more preference for savoury foods and carbohydrates, whereas spoon-fed babies tended to prefer sweet foods."
And many other examples on the Web.
2) preference for savOry foods :
http://medind.nic.in/icb/t05/i9/icbt05i9p771.pdf (link copied below):
"TABLE 2. Features Suggestive of Renal Tubular Disorders
Clinical
• Growth retardation, failure to thrive
• Polyuria, polydipsia; preference for savory foods"
"Evaluation: The first step in the evaluation of a child with
hypokalemia and metabolic acidosis is to differentiate
gastrointestinal bicarbonate loss from RTA. The presence
of polyuria, *preference for savory foods*, failure to thrive
and rickets, are suggestive of RTA."
http://www.drgourmet.com/bites/2012/052312.shtml :
"The records on the participants' handheld devices revealed that while those on the *savory diet* felt more satisfied with their meals than those on the *sweet diet*, they also showed *a stronger preference for sweet foods*. Those on the sweet diet showed more of **a preference for savory foods**, but this preference was not nearly as strong."
And many other examples on the Web.
Example sentence:
Irritability, listlesseness, anorexia or preference for savoury foods.
The presence of polyuria, preference for savory foods, failure to thrive and rickets, are suggestive of RTA.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: I agree with your comments about the French. However, in context, the original concerns one of the five tastes, widely recognised scientifically, and removed from the "general public" distinction of sweet/savoury as sucré/salé. See my ref of salt/umami.
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Reference comments
4 hrs
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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Reference:
http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staffinfo/jacob/teaching/sensory/taste.html
Salt taste
Salt is sodium chloride (Na+ Cl-). Na+ ions enter the receptor cells via Na-channels. These are amiloride-sensitive Na+ channel (as distinguished from TTX-sensitive Na+ channels of nerve and muscle). The entry of Na+ causes a depolarization, Ca2+ enters through voltage-sensitive Ca2+ channels, transmitter release occurs and results in increased firing in the primary afferent nerve.
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Olfaction and gustation are referred to as the chemical senses. Try the MIT lectures by Bear too.
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One of the five tastes : sweet, salt, bitter, sour and umami. Others are in the process of being characterised... perhaps! This is science, you are describing a study and even if it turns out that your reader is general public, you have to be accurate. At the point the term is used in your text, there is for example no reference to salty foods; it describes the salt taste (some say "salty taste"). My neuroscience lectures and my own sources, use "salt taste".
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"Savoury" is wrong for "salé" in scientific terms. The general public can be forgiven for not making the distinction. French loosely uses "salé/sucré" in the same way as Brits use "savoury/sweet". However, in scientific terms, and this context is technical/scientific, the "umami" is the right term.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21885776
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20107438
And on « umami » : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19640953
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Further course memory joggers from the MIT, where Bear's book is referred to
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/brain-and-cognitive-sciences/9-01... I am looking at mine right now.
Chandrashekar has done a fair bit of work on gustation :
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Chandrashekar J[Auth...
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Science is ahead of educational source materials, as one might expect. Children are still being taught, as I was, that specific tastes can be mapped onto specific areas of the tongue. That is now known to be inexact :
http://www.livescience.com/7113-tongue-map-tasteless-myth-de...
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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7117/fig_tab/natu...
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Probably getting into this too much for he purposes of this question but I did my masters thesis in olfaction, and gustation was not far away! Sorry if i'm looking a bit geeky about it. I just find the biochem and the physiology of it extrmely interesting, simply because so much remains to be discovered.
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I'm (capital - typed too fast).
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Think about your target reader. If you want a techie scientific rendering, then hop over to PubMed, for example.
On the "advacned search" mode, select "title/abstract" and enter each term.
"Salt taste" gets 218 hits for the term as is, in the title or abstract : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=salt taste[Title/Abs...
"salty taste" gets 128 articles : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=salty taste[Title/Ab...
If you do the same thing in the ordinary search tool on PubMed, you get ten times more for "salt taste" than "salty".
CQFD? Instinct? Feeling? My opinion? Either will do, although I have a preference for "salt" rather than "salty".
Salt is sodium chloride (Na+ Cl-). Na+ ions enter the receptor cells via Na-channels. These are amiloride-sensitive Na+ channel (as distinguished from TTX-sensitive Na+ channels of nerve and muscle). The entry of Na+ causes a depolarization, Ca2+ enters through voltage-sensitive Ca2+ channels, transmitter release occurs and results in increased firing in the primary afferent nerve.
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Olfaction and gustation are referred to as the chemical senses. Try the MIT lectures by Bear too.
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One of the five tastes : sweet, salt, bitter, sour and umami. Others are in the process of being characterised... perhaps! This is science, you are describing a study and even if it turns out that your reader is general public, you have to be accurate. At the point the term is used in your text, there is for example no reference to salty foods; it describes the salt taste (some say "salty taste"). My neuroscience lectures and my own sources, use "salt taste".
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"Savoury" is wrong for "salé" in scientific terms. The general public can be forgiven for not making the distinction. French loosely uses "salé/sucré" in the same way as Brits use "savoury/sweet". However, in scientific terms, and this context is technical/scientific, the "umami" is the right term.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21885776
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20107438
And on « umami » : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19640953
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Further course memory joggers from the MIT, where Bear's book is referred to
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/brain-and-cognitive-sciences/9-01... I am looking at mine right now.
Chandrashekar has done a fair bit of work on gustation :
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Chandrashekar J[Auth...
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Science is ahead of educational source materials, as one might expect. Children are still being taught, as I was, that specific tastes can be mapped onto specific areas of the tongue. That is now known to be inexact :
http://www.livescience.com/7113-tongue-map-tasteless-myth-de...
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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7117/fig_tab/natu...
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Probably getting into this too much for he purposes of this question but I did my masters thesis in olfaction, and gustation was not far away! Sorry if i'm looking a bit geeky about it. I just find the biochem and the physiology of it extrmely interesting, simply because so much remains to be discovered.
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I'm (capital - typed too fast).
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Think about your target reader. If you want a techie scientific rendering, then hop over to PubMed, for example.
On the "advacned search" mode, select "title/abstract" and enter each term.
"Salt taste" gets 218 hits for the term as is, in the title or abstract : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=salt taste[Title/Abs...
"salty taste" gets 128 articles : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=salty taste[Title/Ab...
If you do the same thing in the ordinary search tool on PubMed, you get ten times more for "salt taste" than "salty".
CQFD? Instinct? Feeling? My opinion? Either will do, although I have a preference for "salt" rather than "salty".
Note from asker:
| Thank you, I understand 70% of that, which made me think of piercings and metal fillings causing their host to literally become a battery, as this chap explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAm8_8Xd1TA&feature=endscreen&NR=1 |
| http://www.festalgue.com/les-algues/alimentaire/gastronomie-japonaise2.html |
| Nothing wrong with geeks! Thank you for this wonderfully complete mass of information! Your help is greatly appreciated and highly valuable (and your tiny grammatical error / typo insignificant)! So do you think "salt preference" would be the best choice as per cc's last comment? This is my conclusion for the moment, because "taste" seems to go without saying... ;o) |
| Then again maybe I'm the one "qui cherches la petite bête" and all three suggestions are perfectly valid (salty taste preference, preference for salt and salt preference)... |
| Thanks again :oD |
Discussion
The "umami" taste is in the monosodium L-glutamate you all no doubt know and probably describe as salt : http://www.cell.com/retrieve/pii/S0092867403008444?cc=y